Here’s What Happened When Prisoners Started Vaping (HBO)

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    Jamie Mosley is a successful entrepreneur, who started a company, and made a lot of money, selling a product you might not have realized there was a market for: E-cigarettes that are safe for jails.
    Specifically, for his jail - or at least, that's how it started.
    Mosley, a former state police officer who moonlights as a NASCAR driver, was elected Jailer of Laurel County Kentucky in 2012. Without the option to sell tobacco in his commissary, the jail saw a new set of problems emerge, like withdrawal issues, more inmate fighting, and an increase in black market trade of tobacco. Furthermore, Mosley found that corrections staff had one less thing to take away from inmates to discourage bad behavior.
    "When I developed the product. It was really not with the intention of starting a company I was just trying to solve a problem within my own facility." Mosley told VICE News. So he got the idea to introduce a vape option to his jail, but all of the ones on the market were too easily turned into weapons. So he invented a solution.
    "Everything out there had a metal casing or was a very very hard plastic, and could be hammered down into a shank," Mosley said, "We also wanted something with a very low voltage so that you couldn't utilize it for an ignition source to start a fire with."
    Crossbar, as Mosley calls his product, is now in some 33 prisons and jails across the country, and is expected to do $3.5 million in sales this year.
    It sells to prisons and jails for about $2 to $3, and the jails, in turn, sell it to inmates for between $10-15. One Crossbar e-cig is said to be the equivalent of about two packs of cigarettes, but inmates say they are still essentially luxury items. And while Mosley sells the ecigs to his own jail at cost, it’s not hard to see the excellent profit margins that would be attractive to other facilities. This additional revenue source is one of the main marketing points for Crossbar.
    And while the e-cig trade has made Mosley a fairly wealthy man, he insists he has no plans to give up the job he loves: working at the jail.
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Crossbar, as Mosley calls his product, is now in some 33 prisons and jails across the county, and is expected to do $3.5 million in sales this year. WATCH NEXT: Vape Influencers Think FDA's Crackdown On Juul Won't Matter - http://bit.ly/2qUkm1E

2 mánuðum síðan
NPC000 361
NPC000 361

VICE News There’s nothing wrong with making money. This isn’t socialist Venezuela.

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Crouton Boo
Crouton Boo

KM Merry lol you’re dumb

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Glorified SIN
Glorified SIN

As sum1 who has grew up around Mosley I assure u he is 100% full of $H!T in this vid, total act for the cams. He has multiple streams of revenue off of inmates cause that's all he ever seems to b thinkn about & workn on. Not ur primary job as a jailer.

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Dq Bq
Dq Bq

https://soundcloud.com/user-709342904/sets/rk7ihvdvrx0v

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LadyVet
LadyVet

My brother is incarcerated in this jail and we have lived in this county all our lives. The families are the ones who are footing the bill for everything purchased by the inmates from Jamie Mosley's commissary. The mark up is astronomical. I could not even get Jamie Mosley to assist with getting diabetic shoes for my brother and I spoke to him directly with the response he would get back to me the next day. That was September 21st. I am yet to hear from him. He claims he's used the 'proceeds' of these E-Cigs to install a new medical facility at the jail but I also must pay for any medical attention my brother needs while in the jail. Every dollar I give, the jail takes half. The families are punished because we love and care for our family members who have done wrong and are paying the price. However the families are also paying a very high price too. E-Cigs are as bad as drugs and have been required to have a warning label stating ""WARNING: this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical." by the FDA. I think it is wrong to profit off captive prisoners at the expense of their families while holding a government job that the public have entrusted you with. Just my own personal opinion and view from experience.

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Agentxphile
Agentxphile

I've never been to jail, but this would make it easier to bare if I ever did. Wonderful.

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Now&Awakened
Now&Awakened

The Reporter is meh..

7 klukkustundum síðan
Todd Jamison
Todd Jamison

This is a great idea and that CO isn't a dummy to boot.

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Scott Hotchkiss
Scott Hotchkiss

Should sell them to prisinors for same price that they buy them

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Scott Hotchkiss
Scott Hotchkiss

In jail you are supposed to be allowed the same stuff you can have outside. Except alcohol obviously.

14 klukkustundum síðan
Dr. Ziegler
Dr. Ziegler

In germany prisoners can smoke normal cigarettes. I dont see the problem?!

16 klukkustundum síðan
Blake
Blake

Prison should not be a business. That only incentives locking up more inmates to boost sales. Combine that with the incessant encroachment of big business and government and you have a recipe for authoritarian disaster.

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Joel Daniel
Joel Daniel

Wow yanny county jail looks pretty alright

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NeV MeV
NeV MeV

Fuckn Genius!

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BoSS HoGz
BoSS HoGz

"Live for Recoverey" 🤔🤔🤔

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Lt.NinjaGhosh
Lt.NinjaGhosh

Drugs...heroin...

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ron baer
ron baer

"drugs, heroine..." wait heroine isnt a drug??

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B Murph
B Murph

That should be Nation wide

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mmfsonb
mmfsonb

When withdrawing from something i feel as inmates are more violent, using this as a way to let them relax is brilliant

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Smokey
Smokey

VAPES TURNED EM EVEN MORE GAY OH MAH GAWD

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Mount Vinterest
Mount Vinterest

I think you should always critizise this kind of business, especially when one can argue that the prison could artificially increase the demand. But I also think that the answer to the journalists critique is outstanding, because we humans thake other addicting stuff as caffee or chips as normal and also don't think about the consquences.

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honestly same
honestly same

5:45 you mean *yanny* county jail

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Scott Mendez
Scott Mendez

They sell them to certain inmates who can afford wholesale at $3 a pop, and then those inmates sell them for $10 a pop to other inmates. It's a business for profit in the Kentucky prison system.

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Tanphan Tanthien
Tanphan Tanthien

3:54 He is the eagle , he is Khabib Nurmagomedov

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Lisa O. Davis
Lisa O. Davis

The fact is that smoking (nicotine) calms a person down, so it is obvious to an addict /smoker that in jails especially, or for anyone that has anxiety, nervousness mental illness, etc, it will make them feel less nervous. Whether it's right or wrong it just is.

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Flamma
Flamma

5:17 i mean, he did answer it earlier, he is making some cash with it AND keeping his employees more safer with the inmates by them being calmer with something to smoke instead of tobacco. I think its a win/win

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Formidable Foe
Formidable Foe

Or we could put an end to mass incarceration.

2 dögum síðan
nelsonta00
nelsonta00

They'd might as well sell cannabis vapes in jail. I'm pretty sure violence will plummet

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Daniel Soto
Daniel Soto

2:23 can't stop laughing

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blingtitzz guwop
blingtitzz guwop

The money don't hurt but I can see what he is saying

2 dögum síðan
Jessica Childers
Jessica Childers

If it can help keep out contraband and kepps people safer it may be worth it... but we do not yet know the long term affects of vaping on the body. Also, it brings up the question should people in prison be allowed the luxury of things you can usually only have outside of prison? Tough choices.

2 dögum síðan
ZirJohn
ZirJohn

you asked him if he did it to make money as if its a bad thing to make money off your business lol

2 dögum síðan
rhonduh leigh
rhonduh leigh

This is a GREAT thing.

2 dögum síðan
Barrington Morris
Barrington Morris

No more RAMEN

2 dögum síðan
Howard Roark
Howard Roark

This creep is obviously exploiting the inmates at his prison. The markup is totally outrageous! Moreover, private prisons should not be legal!

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Russell
Russell

This is a great thing and i don't care what any ignorant people who aren't experienced with nicotine addiction have to say. It's not just something you can quit or stop doing on a dime, if you have a nicotine addiction and have been smoking for years going even a day without a cigarette can be absolutely brutal on someone if they've been smoking long enough. It's important that if someone is jailed for an illegal drug that they still have these legal options to sate them and make sure they arent absolutely miserable while in prison. Iv'e seen how people can behave when they have to stop smoking for some reason and itll often make people extremely moody and aggravated even if there's no outside source fueling them on. This man is doing good work and is helping these inmates tremendously even if you might not think just letting people smoke can be that beneficial, it is.

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MrKydaman
MrKydaman

Wow, was this a documentary or a trial? Buddy was really grilling the guy about making money of of the ecigs.

2 dögum síðan
Gavin’s Friend
Gavin’s Friend

This was very close to being a trailer park boys episode. Very close.

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TJ Quintino
TJ Quintino

$$$

2 dögum síðan
Dee1L33
Dee1L33

In the mid 2000's? 😕 it's 2019 were not even halfway there yet

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Red Dragon
Red Dragon

Does it have some kind of calming affect.

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Jell O
Jell O

Prob using the inmates as guinea pigs for long term vape research.

2 dögum síðan
Matias Gutierrez
Matias Gutierrez

Sooo lets get rich off these poor fools wat a deal

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Matthew04
Matthew04

drugs,heroin wtf is heroin then ?🤣 1:12

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Addy M
Addy M

Hey if the cost of one is equivalent to a pack of cigarettes and lasts as long as a pack, I'm for it. Because I smoked for a few years before switching to vaping and it really does help with weaning off the nicotine while reducing the typical nicotine withdrawals. That and it allows the body to start recovering somewhat (depends on the juice and what's in it) from getting rid of the tar and everything else that's normally in a cigarette. At the end of the day, if they're putting the profits towards things to help the prisoners and not just pocket everything, then maybe it's a good idea. Because like some people said, cigarettes are gonna get in differently otherwise and those ways are much more risky.

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Dylan Watersnake
Dylan Watersnake

*HOW IS IT BENDY?!?!?*

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koi
koi

This is a win-win for all. Yanny County Jail sets an example for other prisons to follow.

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outlaw law
outlaw law

Broken system of Third World country. U making money from prisoner.. Exploitation. Prison is just another busines.

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um ok
um ok

Welcome to the land of crippling nicotine addiction

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flareandghost 1
flareandghost 1

you gotta think of everything...haha is he doign advertizing for the ciggies?

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tREvoR xD
tREvoR xD

Yanny county jail??

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king lock
king lock

i respect this man ~!!!!! i vape i smoke i also been to jail it would be better

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tom healey
tom healey

donny

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Benny Hurtado
Benny Hurtado

That’s next level

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ianjsutt
ianjsutt

Without watching I’m guessing a shitload more buttsex.

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I MADE THIS!
I MADE THIS!

Prison for profit, classic capitalist move, 'merica!

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BD
BD

$2 cost and $15 retail. Yup i'm sure it's about helping these poor inmates

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Shari Gill
Shari Gill

This is absolutely genius.

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Sxyzombie 777
Sxyzombie 777

Who cares if he’s making money it’s America that’s what we are all about bless this mans heart

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Pete Rock
Pete Rock

Drugs heroine WHAT!

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Martyn Greener
Martyn Greener

Well F^!K it WHY not?!

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SNOE 1r
SNOE 1r

Bruh they treating them like little kids \\ the cop was like feeding them junk food this and that like wat

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Jake Da Wrestler
Jake Da Wrestler

They look like epi-pens lol

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NPC000 361
NPC000 361

There’s nothing wrong with making money. This isn’t socialist Venezuela.

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CrazyGermanM8ing
CrazyGermanM8ing

This is a bad idea mark my words there gunna turn it into a weapon and kill someone

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TheMoreSubsYouHaveTheGayerYouAre
TheMoreSubsYouHaveTheGayerYouAre

I'll just smoke the real tobacco thanks. not like it doesnt get through.

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Nazisusuallyhave Nocock
Nazisusuallyhave Nocock

Modern day slave owner is all this dude is

4 dögum síðan
IronskullGM
IronskullGM

They suddenly grew man buns and craved soy milk.

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Mike Scarborough
Mike Scarborough

How dare Vice ask critical questions in order to explore both sides of the issue. They should be more like Fox News and stick with just one side of every issue; the "right" side.

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nick4819
nick4819

Of course VICE tries to make the worst of the situation. I've seen people almost killed in jail over a cigarette....let the damn people vape. It helps keep the calm...keeps violence down...protects jailers from inmates that are just fed up. The jail earns money to help pay for itself....literally no negative effects of allowing this.

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Achinth Murali
Achinth Murali

Let them vape

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Sharon Crawford
Sharon Crawford

Why not just give them nicotine gum. The nicotine is what they are addicted to.

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MeloV
MeloV

1like for 1 ecig smoked in that jail

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Brian Chudobiak
Brian Chudobiak

Good for this guy .... best thing he could've ever did .. I know what it's like to go on there from smoking 2 packs a day to nothing... it's terrible .. just wanted to fight everyone for a week

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The Spirit Molecule
The Spirit Molecule

A jailer who saw an opportunity and made a shit ton of money is honestly what he's doing! Idc what he says theirs ways around the money supposedly going back to the inmates.

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Crazycraigy
Crazycraigy

2.25...can't the Landing officer spell neither...

6 dögum síðan
Piotr Skutnik
Piotr Skutnik

Everything would make more sense if the E-Cigs would cost 1-2$ a pop, Not 12$ lol, when you work in Prison you make roughly .50-1$ a Day. So, of course, the Warden sees an opportunity to make Loads of Money!

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Hawkingseye
Hawkingseye

God forbid someone makes money off of the criminals, how could someone think of such a capitalist idea.

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Water Nom nom nom
Water Nom nom nom

3:07 double the hit the stronger it hits

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konung
konung

Hey, VICE - you are a 2 BILLION $ company pretending to be "woke" & "socially aware". I don't think you are in a position to pass moral judgment on anyone, let alone someone who actually does ETHICAL CAPITALISM.

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abcdefghijklmnop
abcdefghijklmnop

Ask the prisoners if they mind being exploited if that was his true intentions. I don't think it was.

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Nyte Leaf
Nyte Leaf

New prison hustle

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SephCat74
SephCat74

Who cares if they are making profit off of it? If the prisons runs smoother and less violent, then sure let em! I'd say go even further and do cannabis pens as well. It's not like those inmates are able to save money in there or anything. Let them spend it if it makes them more docile and cooperative.

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John Armstrong
John Armstrong

When they legalize pot everywhere just think how docile those prisoners are going to be.

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dean howard
dean howard

Since when do prisoners get to use contraband in PRISON?

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Grey *59
Grey *59

dean howard since it became not contraband

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Andrew H
Andrew H

For profit prisons. It's one of the reasons we have the single largest population of incarcerated felons in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate people make money off the imprisonment of others in this country, they make a lot of money.

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Oki Virgiawan
Oki Virgiawan

What kind people who dislike this video

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monkfry
monkfry

Hmm, how about you just stay out of prison. Problem solved.

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fanofCOH
fanofCOH

75k for a few computers and some software? wooow

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Sly
Sly

Lol 9poo ok?lllllllll ¿¡k!kmm!?¿ ? !!¡¿

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Theleilei162
Theleilei162

Thing is this actually makes sense for rehabilitation!! Qudos to this guy for thinking about everything

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•What Spade Thinks •
•What Spade Thinks •

I'd have no problems with this ecig program IF methadone & Suboxone programs were just as easy to enroll in. I think placing one addictive substance (especially nicotine which is THE most addictive substance known to man) within reach of the inmates to the exclusion of the others which they REALLY need to get on (maintenance therapy or withdrawal cessation regimens) is not very fair or smart. Especially when it's a corrections officers ecig company who is getting rich off of the program...just sayin'.

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xDraco23
xDraco23

Wow this is what my city finally gets on the news for ?

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green joker
green joker

I have a easier way why not just let them have cigarettes hahaha

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The Scabby Man
The Scabby Man

Vice is gay

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Fillinyourname
Fillinyourname

The profit margin is a little bit too high but if the money goes back to improving the facility for the inmates that is great. Unfortunately there usually is a loophole somewhere.

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Diablo3 Soon Diablo 4
Diablo3 Soon Diablo 4

Great business.Lock up 100.000.000 people,and charge them for food and water as well.

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Wheat Thiccs
Wheat Thiccs

R E C O V E R E Y

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William Frm203
William Frm203

i like this idea fr but i think inmates should have orange crocs ( crocs are amazing )

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Jessica Luque
Jessica Luque

I can see how this can be misconstrued as the jailer capitalizing on people who are having a hard time giving up nicotine in his jail however it depends on how much it costs in production and materials to make the e-cigs is he marking up the prices to a ridiculous amount from what I got it seems like it's $3 a piece and literally any other E Cig on the market is definitely more than $3 I think it's a fantastic idea I myself as an ex nicotine user know that quitting cold turkey can make you very volatile and difficult to deal with and when you're upset that's the first thing you think of is having a cigarette or angry or know that quitting cold turkey can make you very volatile and difficult to deal with and when you're upset that's the first thing you think of is having a cigarette or angry as well I think if they're using proper precautions as seen in the video to make sure the people are returning the ones that are used and purchasing a new one and things of that nature then this is something that a lot of jails across the United States and in other countries could potentially benefit from I don't think that people think about the fact that any little issue when you're incarcerated is a big deal so not having nicotine on top of that creates more problems I think you saw an issue developed an awesome product to deal with the issue and it seems that they're being very careful on how they distribute and as he said in the video they use proceeds to put back into the facility which is also a big plus

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BlueCheese747
BlueCheese747

The issue of exploitation, whether or not it actually applies here, should still be considered. It's just good journalism - exploring different ways that people might interpret the subject and asking the questions that many people might ask themselves.

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Matthew Borell
Matthew Borell

What a great idea. I hope this catches on to more prisons and jails in the country. Possibly could move on to drug rehab facilities that don’t allow smoking. This guy could make some serious cash moving these. But chooses not to and uses the money for other things within the jail itself. A fucking genius idea. Mad props.

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Luke Marshall
Luke Marshall

They banned them in the mid 2000?? So another few hundred years !?

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BHC_ RAMEN
BHC_ RAMEN

Vaping if gay

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